samsmithnz Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 I'm in charge of buying Visual Studio .NET, for... myself. And I'd really like to get the best version for me without spending millions of dollars (MS sure does charge for these development and server products:eek: !!!) Anyway, I was looking at an academic version of VS.NET 2003, as I know I can get a copy for a couple hundred bucks cheaper. Does this contain C++, VB.NET, C# and J#? Or just a subset? I know the initial version of .NET (2002) only had VB.NET and C#. I remember in Visual Studio 6, all I really got in the Enterprise version was a bunch of tools that I never used. Is VS.NET 03 the same? I'll be using .NET to create a serious of personal applications and to help to understand the .NET framework, so that I can update my qualifications for VS6, and move on up in the world... Any comments would be most welcome. Thanks:D :D Sam Smith Quote Thanks Sam http://www.samsmith.co.nz
*Experts* mutant Posted July 22, 2003 *Experts* Posted July 22, 2003 VS.NET academic contains the same stuff as VS.NET pro with addition of student tools. You dont get much bonus stuff like you do with Enterprise versions but its good enough. You get VB.NET, C#, C++ and J# with it. Quote
samsmithnz Posted July 22, 2003 Author Posted July 22, 2003 Yeh I saw that 'extra' student stuff when I read about it on Microsoft's site, but the feature list never actually mentioned if it included the languages, only that it supported them, and I wasn't exactly sure what that meant. Thanks Sam Quote Thanks Sam http://www.samsmith.co.nz
samsmithnz Posted July 22, 2003 Author Posted July 22, 2003 I just found an article that indicated that you can't redistribute your executables if you use the academic version. Is this true? Quote Thanks Sam http://www.samsmith.co.nz
*Experts* Volte Posted July 22, 2003 *Experts* Posted July 22, 2003 You may not be able to sell them legally, I dunno... You can distribute them freely though. Quote
*Gurus* Derek Stone Posted July 23, 2003 *Gurus* Posted July 23, 2003 It's an academic version. It's meant for learning, not commercial use. If you intend to sell or redistribute a product purchase the Professional Edition for a few hundred dollars more. If your intent is simply to learn .NET then the academic version will suite you just fine, although I don't see the point in purchasing a product you ultimately can't use for commercial reasons. Quote Posting Guidelines
reanjr Posted July 26, 2003 Posted July 26, 2003 I do not believe you can distribute any software you create with VS.NET Academic, whether you sell it or give it away. Quote
samsmithnz Posted July 28, 2003 Author Posted July 28, 2003 So does this mean that if I make a Web Service or Win Application, I can't compile it to test it in its runtime environment? Or does it mean that I can, but I'm not supposed to...? Thanks, I really need this clearified. Cheers Sam Quote Thanks Sam http://www.samsmith.co.nz
*Experts* mutant Posted July 28, 2003 *Experts* Posted July 28, 2003 You can compile the programs and run them its just that Academic is not intended for commercial use. Quote
*Experts* Volte Posted July 28, 2003 *Experts* Posted July 28, 2003 There is a discussion on visualbasicforum.com which covers this. We discovered that you can't sell any products made with Visual Studio 6 Academic, but the EULA for VS.NET Academic said nothing like this. Therefore, we can assume it is safe to redistribute (commerically or otherwise) products made with it. http://www.visualbasicforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=74111 Quote
samsmithnz Posted August 4, 2003 Author Posted August 4, 2003 (edited) Ok, So i've saved a lot of money. I've just brought a copy of VS .NET (2002) from Amazon.com. Now I want to buy the upgrade. But the price difference for the same product on Amazon, doesn't seem quite right. Look at these two links: How come one is $30, and one is $500??? Whats the difference??? $30: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000096AXY/ref=pd_thx_sims_2/103-1354504-7117409?v=glance $500 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000089GKO/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/103-1354504-7117409 Edited August 4, 2003 by samsmithnz Quote Thanks Sam http://www.samsmith.co.nz
*Experts* mutant Posted August 4, 2003 *Experts* Posted August 4, 2003 The one for 29.99 is a special upgrade for users that have Visual Studio .NET 2002 already, you can only upgrade VS.NET 2002 with it. The other one is for people that own other products that qualify for upgrades, like VS6 or 5, or sometimes even some products from other companies. Quote
samsmithnz Posted August 4, 2003 Author Posted August 4, 2003 Ahhh that makes perfect sense. thanks very much guys, I think I'm finally confident I have everything I need! Quote Thanks Sam http://www.samsmith.co.nz
RandomGuy Posted October 18, 2003 Posted October 18, 2003 Is the upgrades worth it? I have the 1st release of VS.Net, what is different in 2003? (Bug fixes?) Quote
AndreRyan Posted October 19, 2003 Posted October 19, 2003 I know that it has built in WinXP theme support it also has a lot of fixes and new functions. I still use 2002 but it's worth upgrading but I'm using an Academic version which the upgrades don't upgrade. You can probably get a list fixes from the Microsoft Website somewhere Quote .Net allows software to be written for any version of Windows and not break like Unmanaged applications unless using Unmanaged procedures like APIs. If your program uses large amounts of memory but releases it when something else needs it, then what's the problem?
samsmithnz Posted October 19, 2003 Author Posted October 19, 2003 Theres also some big upgrades to C++ and J# (yawn) Quote Thanks Sam http://www.samsmith.co.nz
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