Guest mutant Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Hehe... theres 3 people against me but Ill try :) Robby, a lot of hosts offer Linux hosting. Banjo, Windows doesnt need to be administered? It looks like your saying that you can turn Windows on and magically everything is done, and you need specialist to configure Linux. Wyrd, it is possible to have FrontPageExtensions on Linux, and that webhost you mentioned is very good but this one http://www.smarterlinux.com/hosting.html has JSP and CFM pages. Look at the monthly price of a server that has all those nice features and JSP and CFM which are very expensive on other servers(at least from what i have seen, but i may be wrong) Quote
wyrd Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Wyrd, it is possible to have FrontPageExtensions on Linux, and that webhost you mentioned is very good but this one http://www.smarterlinux.com/hosting.html has JSP and CFM pages. Look at the monthly price of a server that has all those nice features and JSP and CFM which are very expensive on other servers(at least from what i have seen, but i may be wrong) Heh, FrontPage extentions are a pain in the rear to put on a Linux box, which is why any rarely even offer it. Looking at the feature list and not even having to scroll down to view the entire list, makes me wonder if you got my point. For $5/month on that Windows server I showed you, offers way, way, way, way more then what is offered on this one for $30/month. As for ColdFusion, I'd love to know who still actually programs in that. On a side note.. these guys don't even offer Oracle. How can a Linux host not have Oracle? You've got to have a better example for your argument then this host... :p Oracle is the only thing of importance that is not offered on a Windows server. Quote Gamer extraordinaire. Programmer wannabe.
Guest mutant Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 This was not to counterpart all the features of that host you showed, but just an example of the price for CFM and JSP. I dont think this makes sense anymore :) when i find something better youll find better or if you find better I will. Linux has a long way to go but will get there one day. Quote
Leaders Banjo Posted March 28, 2003 Leaders Posted March 28, 2003 I was not saying that Windows does not need administration. I was saying that it is much much easier for a novice user (which most computer user are, lets face it) to configure than Linux is. Quote Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't!
*Gurus* Derek Stone Posted March 28, 2003 *Gurus* Posted March 28, 2003 Linux and Windows are both viable environments. So are any of the BSDs and many versions of NetWare and Solaris. Pick one and use it well. There's no need to bicker over which one is better since the argument in and of itself is entirely subjective. "Love the one your with", and for God's sake stop trying to prove superiority. Bah! Do these threads never end! :rolleyes: Let's get back to .NET... Quote Posting Guidelines
*Gurus* Thinker Posted March 30, 2003 *Gurus* Posted March 30, 2003 The thing that always gets me about these arguments are the apples to oranges comparisons. Computers and O/S good at desktop work rarely are good as servers and vice versa. MS started the concept of an O/S that would do both well (and have since somewhat backed away from it). Linux is now trying to do the same because if all you can do is run servers, you are never going to have enough market share for people to take a 'free' O/S seriously. Quote Posting Guidelines
steved Posted March 31, 2003 Posted March 31, 2003 *sigh* People really miss the boat on Windows/Linux/BSD/Solaris comparisons. Derek came through with the post that made the most sense. :) While I was working for National Defense, my boss came up with a quote I will never forget. One staff meeting everyone in our department was ing about Windows vs. Linux (thanks to a discussion brought on by security issues in an open-source OS vs a closed-source OS). My boss, a fairly convincing guy, gave us his overview: "Open Source is here. (He raised his hand horizontally, neck-height.) Windows is here. (He raised his hand just a little lower than that, near the top of his chest.) In a month, it will be the other way around. So shut up and use whatever you chose for your desktop." Granted, he was only discussing security. But this applies to almost everything. Microsoft comes out with do-all productivity software (Outlook), de Icaza writes a clone (Evolution). Linux has journalling filesystems, Longhorn will have an equivalent. And so on... The discussion is moot. But I just like to participate in the name of hypocrisy. :rolleyes: Quote zig?
Leaders Banjo Posted March 31, 2003 Leaders Posted March 31, 2003 LOL Quote Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't!
Heiko Posted March 31, 2003 Posted March 31, 2003 I say it as it is :) Groupware. Clustering. Virtual Memory. 64Bit Processors. Code Management. Directories w/ File versioning. Elaborate Rights Mgmt. I could go on and on :) Quote .nerd
wyrd Posted March 31, 2003 Posted March 31, 2003 LOL @ steved. Nice quot. :D Quote Gamer extraordinaire. Programmer wannabe.
*Gurus* Thinker Posted April 1, 2003 *Gurus* Posted April 1, 2003 VMS rules. ruled. Dim betterOS As String betterOS = "VMS" & ControlChars.CrLf & "+ 1" & _ ControlChars.CrLf & "====" & ControlChars.CrLf & _ Convert.ToChar(Convert.ToByte("V"c) + 1) & _ Convert.ToChar(Convert.ToByte("M"c) + 1) & _ Convert.ToChar(Convert.ToByte("S"c) + 1) MessageBox.Show(betterOS, "What is better?", MessageBoxButtons.OK, _ MessageBoxIcon.Information) Quote Posting Guidelines
steved Posted April 1, 2003 Posted April 1, 2003 Ha ha ha ha! Do we have a true hardcore nerd in the crowd? Nice one. :) Quote zig?
bzbiz Posted May 20, 2003 Posted May 20, 2003 in my opinion: MS = easy to use; everywhere LINUX = not easy; not in desktop/office world MS = No privacy; High cost; MSPeople think to be the best (...evangelist... phua!) LINUX = free; if something don't work linux programmer generally admit it; everyone can do his little job to improve the sistem. RESULT = i'm with linux for the ideas, the think mode, but i must "guadagnarmi il pane" (work to live), with the pc and until all my costumer become prgrammer i have to stay with MS. P.S. MS make very good hardware and video-games, why they make OS? ByE BiZ Quote Join The Brotherhood Of NOD
Madz Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 Well my dearest Friends. i m very shocked to see what every one is saying . there is one thing . since Release of Windows 95 no any company is able to beat microsoft. and its a universal truth. tell me one thing . if you are a new user and we give you 2 PC with with Linux and other with Windows. and user will always choose Windows you know why ??? it is much much easier to operate. and if some one askes for a some thing creepy choice for hackers and system administrators or programmers most of them probebly ask for Linux coz this is the only operating system which can be modified as any one wants. and do exectly the same what some one wants to do. but now things gonna change Many programmer use Windows based development tools coz its are more eaiser to develop applications in less time. In Windows it always try to do every automaicaly. and if some user try to do something it shouws it a Blue screen Error. but things are changed now. Windows XP is more stable and with .NET applications Windows 2003 .NET server is the best. below is a link to a benchmark Visual Basic .NET Benchmarks Quote The one and only Dr. Madz eee-m@il
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