son Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 hi .. just need some info i am learning java for the first time can some one tell me if i have to install some software program or i just type code in a plain textfile.. thanks sonia:) Quote
Leaders Squirm Posted February 21, 2004 Leaders Posted February 21, 2004 The J2SDK would be a start: http://java.sun.com/j2se/index.jsp Quote Search the forums | Still IRCing | Be nice
son Posted February 21, 2004 Author Posted February 21, 2004 hi 10x loads i installed it.. is there something else i need to install what i have showing on programs in the start menu is java web start.. should that be enough to start coding with java ... thanks in advance and looking forward in hearing from you...;) Quote
*Experts* mutant Posted February 21, 2004 *Experts* Posted February 21, 2004 If you have the Java SDK you can start coding away. But getting some IDE would do you good probably: http://www.netbeans.org http://www.jcreator.com Quote
Denaes Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 Is there an IDE of any real quality. In school we learned on this really awful IDE which really turned me off of Java. After VB6, going to something like notepad with a list of all the files in your project and compilation options... well it gave me no reason to really consider Java. Now if you could create real java in the visual studio IDE, complete with intellisense... I might even try to learn more java. I'm not talking about J# or having .Net dependances, still 100% java, but in a full featured easy to use IDE. I'd heard that other companies could create packages to package their language for the VS IDE, but I wasn't sure if that was their own raw language or their port of it to .Net. You can say a lot of bad about MS, but I think they really have a good, friendly interface and actual helpful documentation with their visual studio projects. The .Net is just a better step because you can have every language in the same environment. I remember with VS6, trying VC++ and everything in the IDE was different. Quote
*Experts* Volte Posted February 21, 2004 *Experts* Posted February 21, 2004 JCreator looks really good. Looks very similar to the .NET IDE. Costs $70, but if you are serious about Java programming (or any language), good tools are essential. Quote
Denaes Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 I think the most important help in an IDE might even be error checking. The version I was learning with in school really had none. When you chose to build it, it would give you line numbers of the errors. Now if it was the instance of a class you created... well telling you line 88 has an error only tells you that you have an error somewere in your class. It got old fast with how much the IDE hurt my eyes. keywords were variations of dark blue, dark red and dark purple, which you would often miss because they were so close to black. Having to build your project after every few lines got old as it took longer to build a 1 page application than it does for VS to build a 50 page, 15 class, 20 componant application. Actually, thats the prime motivation I have to never learn C is because I'm spoiled by VS IDE. Maybe C++.Net, but thats just a little confusing as to wether you use the .net framework or not for that. Quote
dragon4spy Posted February 29, 2004 Posted February 29, 2004 So what's the best then? Which is used the most? Quote Don't judge a man by his look. Don't judge a book by its cover. :D
Joe Mamma Posted March 3, 2004 Posted March 3, 2004 Try JBuilder Personal, JBuilder also, oracle has a free java IDE available:JDeveloper but I havent tried it. Caveat Emptor. . . Oracles uninstalls are a pain in the !!!! Joe Mamma Quote Joe Mamma Amendment 4: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Amendment 9: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
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