I've been playing with the eval version of NetAdvantage 2004 Suite... trying to use the UltraWinChart component with ActiveReports.NET... both are not bad products, but be prepared to spend some "quality" time in forums and reading product Knowledge Base articles trying to figure out how to use them to do what you want. The samples and walkthroughs are good if you're creating applications like "Hello World", but in the really real world not so much. :-\