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Diesel

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Just clicked on Forum Leaders on the bottom of the home page. Realized I have never seen half these people post.

Most haven't posted in the last year.
Some of the administrators have less than 10 posts.

Someone should kick them off.
 
The admins with few posts are the site owners. They are only onboard as admins so they can monitor what is going on, but they don't post much.

Also the thread you speak of seems to have disappeared, so I'm guessing one of the moderators removed it.
 
Diesel said:
Just clicked on Forum Leaders on the bottom of the home page. Realized I have never seen half these people post.

Most haven't posted in the last year.
Some of the administrators have less than 10 posts.

Someone should kick them off.
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so you don't think it's a bit harsh saying ' Someone should kick them off. ' ?
speaking from experience most forum leaders got to that status through many hours of their own time dedicated to helping other people for no cost.
i personally cannot get on the forums as much as i'd like & had a very quiet time for a long while.

The reason for my quite time of not posting was ... trying to get my father-in-law better from terminal lung cancer, then as he got diagnosed as on the way to recovery, losing him to the illness.

I don't need to advertise this, i'm sure other people going through a terrible time in their ' REAL ' personal lives would not appreciate being ' booted ' off a status they worked hard to get just because they didn't post a message for sometime.

Most people will be glad that there are forum leaders ( who pop in & out of the forum even when not posting messages )

Seems a bit of a kick in the teeth trying to get rid of the people that have helped so many others for such a minor reason :confused:
 
First, I moved the thread "rant" to a private area - that's where it should have started. If JoeMamma requests, I can PM him the text so that he can post it on a blog or something more appropriate. It was not a programming related rant and was a bit inappropriate, so it had to go.

About the moderators, leaders, etc... what's the real concern? Are you concerned there's not enough help going on? Not enough answers? Too many "dumb" posts? Too many threads in the wrong forums? Do you just want to be a leader/moderator/whatever yourself? Maybe just not enough "presence"?

Kicking inactive members doesn't appear to be "policy" - there are many members (non leaders, etc.) that don't get kicked either. As mentioned, Admins don't necessarily need to post. Their job is more to handle the administrative duties - but who knows? There's no real job description for this stuff :)

Personally, I don't post as much because most of the posts are already answered by the time I log in, or, people ask questions way out of their league. For example, a seemingly innocent question like "How do I pass a value to my form" can be answered two ways: the quick and dirty answer with a code snippet, or the question and answer of what they're really trying to do which requires way more time than anyone cares to give (the helper or the helpee). I like to answer the easy questions and the ones where I don't know the answer but feel I should - that's when I get to learn something, too.

-nerseus
 
If the moderators feel that a leader or moderator is inactive indifinitely, then they can remove just the status. This happened to me at the VB Forums... now I'm a "Retired Leader" there since I've moved to .NET programming, but this doesn't mean I won't re-visit the VB Forums occasionally.
 
I agree that leadership should be 'activity' based...so many posts per month. I understand people get busy and there status should change to 'retired' leader or 'out of office'. But the name 'leader' implies leading. If my Senior Architect didn't advise me at least a few times a month I would wonder why he is a senior architect. See what I'm saying? If a leader becomes active again he would have the 'out of office' status removed or maybe 'been away on vacation'. :)
 
I think you should institute Joe Mamma as a forum leader.

Reasons?

1. He is very active
2. His posts are accurate and in-depth
3. He is knowledgable in many different areas of .net
 
I agree for all the same reasons; and as far as his brash comments - 99% of the time they are warranted and if people don't like the truth that too bad - comments like that is what drives my competive nature to become a better programmer; and as they say - if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. This is a cut throat industry and people who aren't serious about there work, or can't take 5 minutes to research on Google or MSDN (and literally that all it would take sometimes), need to find a new line of work.
 
@Diesel: I agree with your 3 reasons for "nominating" JoeMamma as a leader. But you left out two other factors affecting JoeMamma: He's an *** and he slams VB.NET at almost every turn. These are two things that I'm sure he's proud of, so I don't mind saying them here in the public forums.

It doesn't matter much anyway. AFAIK this board doesn't really nominate any leaders - they're picked as needed. I can't imagine anyone would pick Joe to represent these forums, but who knows?

-ner
 
I don't remember anyone claiming this was a democracy, this is a site owned for commercial reasons by iNet Interactive, the day to day running however is left to the badged members (Expert, Leader etc.)

Any badged member is effectively speaking for the forum as a whole by the simple fact they are the public face of the forum to the members. Bearing in mind this forum is accessed by people of all nationalities, genders and ages any member should carry himself with a certain amount of decorum and restrict their use of profanity - badged members more than anyone.

I'm not disputing the quality of his code or the technical competence either - I've personally moved his posts to the Code Library section because of the quality and usefulness.

However how would you feel if you personally were just starting out learning how to program (14 year olds and younger have posted here) - or that your son or daughter (for those of us who have them) was just learning and stumbled upon this forum, asked for help and got a response that basically says 'you are a moron for using vb'; or a simple request got hijacked into an anti-vb tirade, or responses came back littered with profanities (and attempts to work round the profanity filter) all condoned and performed by a 'Leader' of the forum - would you be encouraged to return and ask further questions? Would you feel this was something you wanted to contribute to?
Badged members are in a position of responsibility to deal with offensive posts whether reported as such or just determined by us to be so - having such a 'responsible person' posting the messages themselves would hardly give a favourable impression...
Surely a better way to further an on-line community is to encourage people to seek answers for themselves, provide help where possible and if you feel that an alternate method or language would be more suitable then there are ways of getting your point across that do not resort to insults and abuse.
 
In that case, I nominate PlausiblyDamp.

Reasons?

1. His Random Computer Generated Name
2. His congenial manner in answering questions
3. His knowledge of the many namespaces of .Net
4. His insanely high post count
 
Just wondering, is there a chance I can read Joe mamma's fatal post? I'm truly curious... I mean, I always got excelent/kind posts from his person, and now you're saying he was such insultive being :confused:

Hmmm, maybe because I'm a C# coder instead VB.NET...
 
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If Joe requests, I'll send him his post and he can forward it on to you. Otherwise it will remain where it is. Nothing against you, EFile.

-ner
 
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