First off, I'd heard that 2005 was going to come with a grid control. It may still, but it's on in my RC1 standard tray.
Secondly, *** is up with ListViewGroups only being availalbe on computers with XP and the visual styles turned on!? What, was microsoft too lazy to just impliment it's functionality. Instead they made it XP only compatable? Unless you're doing an inside app for XP only machines, it might as well not be there as an option.
Third, why is there a Treeview (I hope it has the standard functionality that 2003 lacked) and a ListView, but no way to turn nodes on the listview or add columns to the list view? It must be the rogue control nobody wants... but wait! There are three component companies I know of that have it! Why would they have it if it if nobody wanted it?
I could overlook the basic shortcommings in VS2003 controls because they gave you a free user edition of the ComponentOne controls which picked up the slack for what they lacked.
I hope they do something like that - only hopefully with Infragistics - their 2005 package is much more impressive than ComponentOnes. There are some pretty wide gaping holes in basic business functionality in VB2005.
Personally I can think of two reasons for this: They wanted to outsource the controls because someone else had them done and it would be cheaper to get a mass of liscenses for everyone like with ComponentOne. The alternative is that MS is just playing softball and doesn't want to make ripples with companies who make money by fleshing out Visual Studio, so they purposefully don't build the advanced controls.
As it stands, if this were the final release and these were the final controls and no provision were made to fill the holes in basic functionality, I'd be sorely let down at paying so much for Visual Studio and having to plop down another $500-$1,000 or so just to get some pretty basic/standard controls.
Secondly, *** is up with ListViewGroups only being availalbe on computers with XP and the visual styles turned on!? What, was microsoft too lazy to just impliment it's functionality. Instead they made it XP only compatable? Unless you're doing an inside app for XP only machines, it might as well not be there as an option.
Third, why is there a Treeview (I hope it has the standard functionality that 2003 lacked) and a ListView, but no way to turn nodes on the listview or add columns to the list view? It must be the rogue control nobody wants... but wait! There are three component companies I know of that have it! Why would they have it if it if nobody wanted it?
I could overlook the basic shortcommings in VS2003 controls because they gave you a free user edition of the ComponentOne controls which picked up the slack for what they lacked.
I hope they do something like that - only hopefully with Infragistics - their 2005 package is much more impressive than ComponentOnes. There are some pretty wide gaping holes in basic business functionality in VB2005.
Personally I can think of two reasons for this: They wanted to outsource the controls because someone else had them done and it would be cheaper to get a mass of liscenses for everyone like with ComponentOne. The alternative is that MS is just playing softball and doesn't want to make ripples with companies who make money by fleshing out Visual Studio, so they purposefully don't build the advanced controls.
As it stands, if this were the final release and these were the final controls and no provision were made to fill the holes in basic functionality, I'd be sorely let down at paying so much for Visual Studio and having to plop down another $500-$1,000 or so just to get some pretty basic/standard controls.